i think we'll get past the election. [laughter] and we, even if we don't get anything done in the lame duck, that we're able to only temporarily kick the can down the road, and only temporary extend policies that we don't want to take effect, and at the same time, early next year, put in place greater budget discipline for the future of the commitment to something, at least the frame work of a deficit reduction package that has a hope of getting bipartisan support. >> it's easy; right? avoid recession, thing one. find a way to increase the debt limit to avoid painful posturing that went on the last time around, and at the end of this, it would be nice to come out, as you talked earlier, with a conception of what our tax code actually is. there may need to still be things that explicitly temporary, but a sharp line distinguishing those that are temporary from that that is permanent law, would be helpful if the policymaking process. >> bob? >> well, i think the best outcome would be a two-stage process. one set of legislat